All in all, the Pirates netted eight prospects inluding;
Craig Hansen, RP - Former 2005 1st round pick and supposed Boston Red Sox closer of the future pre-Papelbon. Hansen possesses a mid 90's fastball and a sometimes plus slider. However, he has been ineffective more often than not and a change of scenery should do him a great deal of good.
Andy LaRoche, 3B - Discussed in my previous blog entry, LaRoche held an APR of #20 overall entering the season and was the Los Angeles Dodgers consensus #2 prospect. A torn thumb ligament in spring training cost him his opportunity to be the Dodgers opening day third baseman and the Casey Blake trade signaled that his Dodgers days were numbered. With a fresh start, he can become a top 5 player at the position in the NL.
Jeff Karstens, P - Karstens has the least upside of any of the players received in this deal. At best, he's a back of the rotation/long reliever type who should eat innings at the major league level and projects as no worse that what the Pirates are currently sending to the mound most days.
Daniel McCutchen, P - Another back of the rotation/long reliever possibility, McCutchen entered 2008 and Baseball America's #14 Yankees prospect. In 300 career minor league innings his ERA sits an impressive 2.79 with a WHIP of 1.09. He has been old for his level at just about every stop leaving his numbers a bit deceiving.
Bryan Morris, SP - Another former first round pick, Morris has recovered nicely from Tommy John surgery and has an ERA of 3.20 while averaging almost a strikeout per inning. The pitcher with the most projection of the lot, his mid 90's fastball seems to be back and he could take off as early as next season.
Brandon Moss, OF - Moss impressed the Red Sox faithful by posting a .295/.337/.462 line bouncing between AAA and the big club. He doesn't have much projection, but a few of his 41 doubles in 2007 have turned into home runs at the AAA level as he has averaged about a home run every twenty at bats in 2008 compared to one every thirty at bats during the 2007 campaign. strikeouts are a concern however and could keep him from eclipsing seasons averages of .260-.270 with 15-18 home runs. With improved plate discipline, I can see him as a .270-.280 hitter with a few seasons approaching 25 long balls.
Ross Ohlendorf, P - If one thing can be said about Ohlendorf, it's that he has a healthy arm unlike so many other Pirates prospects. He hasn't been great at any level of the minors and his 6+ ERA in a little less than 50 IP is unimpressive. However, he's another arm that will give the Pirates some quality appearances between catastrophic outings which is better than can be said for a few of their "reliable" starters.
Jose Tabata, OF - With an overall APR of 35.25 and a New York Yankees APR of 3 on prospect lists entering 2008, Tabata had taken a slight hit from the previous years rankings. Since then, his prospect ranking has tanked between injuries, lack of production, and run ins with the Yankees organization. Desperately needing a fresh start, he will still only be 20 at the start of next season. With plenty of time to develop, he still has the tools to become a star.
Jeff Karstens, P - Karstens has the least upside of any of the players received in this deal. At best, he's a back of the rotation/long reliever type who should eat innings at the major league level and projects as no worse that what the Pirates are currently sending to the mound most days.
Daniel McCutchen, P - Another back of the rotation/long reliever possibility, McCutchen entered 2008 and Baseball America's #14 Yankees prospect. In 300 career minor league innings his ERA sits an impressive 2.79 with a WHIP of 1.09. He has been old for his level at just about every stop leaving his numbers a bit deceiving.
Bryan Morris, SP - Another former first round pick, Morris has recovered nicely from Tommy John surgery and has an ERA of 3.20 while averaging almost a strikeout per inning. The pitcher with the most projection of the lot, his mid 90's fastball seems to be back and he could take off as early as next season.
Brandon Moss, OF - Moss impressed the Red Sox faithful by posting a .295/.337/.462 line bouncing between AAA and the big club. He doesn't have much projection, but a few of his 41 doubles in 2007 have turned into home runs at the AAA level as he has averaged about a home run every twenty at bats in 2008 compared to one every thirty at bats during the 2007 campaign. strikeouts are a concern however and could keep him from eclipsing seasons averages of .260-.270 with 15-18 home runs. With improved plate discipline, I can see him as a .270-.280 hitter with a few seasons approaching 25 long balls.
Ross Ohlendorf, P - If one thing can be said about Ohlendorf, it's that he has a healthy arm unlike so many other Pirates prospects. He hasn't been great at any level of the minors and his 6+ ERA in a little less than 50 IP is unimpressive. However, he's another arm that will give the Pirates some quality appearances between catastrophic outings which is better than can be said for a few of their "reliable" starters.
Jose Tabata, OF - With an overall APR of 35.25 and a New York Yankees APR of 3 on prospect lists entering 2008, Tabata had taken a slight hit from the previous years rankings. Since then, his prospect ranking has tanked between injuries, lack of production, and run ins with the Yankees organization. Desperately needing a fresh start, he will still only be 20 at the start of next season. With plenty of time to develop, he still has the tools to become a star.
In reviewing the names above, I can comfortably say that at least six of the eight players were dealt for much less than they would have been a season or two ago. While some would say that the return for arguably the Pirates three most valuable trade pieces wasn't impressive, I would argue that buying low and acquiring a greater number of prospects than they might have otherwise is a great strategy to employ for an organization with a thin minor league system and in a position to take chances.
Additionally, both Bay and Nady held significantly less value at this time last season making the Pirates cashing in their chips at the right time that much more impressive. See for yourself;
Xavier Nady
.278/.330/.476 in 2007
.328/.385/.535 in 2008
.278/.330/.476 in 2007
.328/.385/.535 in 2008
Jason Bay
.247/.327/.418 in 2007
.282/.375/.519 in 2008
.282/.375/.519 in 2008
Give Neil Huntington a ton of credit for following up a solid 2008 draft with the addition of two, pre-season top 40 prospects and two more former 1st round picks. Adding players with pedigree is never a bad thing. While the three other players involved will never be stars, they should help to successfully bridge the gap between the current and future pirates and allow players like their top prospects to develop without having to be rushed.









2 comments:
i don't know what you're smoking but i don't see that as a haul at all. tabata? immature and overrated and still has yet to hit for power. those pitchers they acquired? you yourself said they profiled as back-of-the-rotation guys or long relievers. the only player in that mess who could pan out is laroche and i'm even leery of that ever happening.
the pirates will continue to be the laughingstock. it's sad but i think another team needs to be contracted.
This coming from the guy that hated me after dealing his precious Miguel Cabrera for both Jason Bay and Garrett Atkins when both were at their low points last season.
Current 2008 stats;
Cabrera - .293/.352/.499
Bay - .282/.375/.519
Atkins - .301/.338/.480
Seriously though...buying low and selling high is the point of making deals. At one point, Hansen, Tabata and LaRoche were all guys considered "untouchable" by their respective organizations and Bay was considered a prematurely aging player with bad knees at the end of 2007. Not to mention Nady who is now with his 4th major league organization which is a great indicator of just how unspectacular he is.
Would Bay for LaRoche have flown at the 2007 deadline? Not a chance!
How about Tabata for Nady? No it wouldn't have!
Marte for Hansen probably may have happened last year, but certainly not in 2006.
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